Friday, January 09, 2009
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Pitchfork's On Repeat: Japandroids - "Young Hearts Spark Fire"

Fuck yeah, guys!

If you're interested, the demo versions of the songs from their forthcoming full length (out on Unfamiliar in the Spring) are up on their Facebook page.

now playing: Japandroids - Young Hearts Spark Fire



awesome jpndrds are getting some play - they deserve it.

but...why the heck would bands put their music on facebook? facebook policy essentially allows them to license user content at their discretion...and nothing much a band can then do about it.

From "The terms of use for Facebook say its licence — which applies to any user content posted there, including photos, videos and text — gives it the right to copy, publicly display, translate, distribute and to create derivative works."

Anyone posting such content is giving up a lot of their rights. I assume people just don't know this, otherwise, who would relinquish such a thing? Or is music somehow different on facebook...

By Anonymous david, at 10:25 a.m.  

Similar hyperbole was made of the Myspace Terms Of Service. I wouldn't be so concerned. Tinfoil hat.

By Blogger Greg, at 9:25 a.m.  

There's just been news lately of facebook pics being published elsewhere without the users permission - the license being granted by facebook itself, which is in their power to do so.

Granted, chances are very slim, but wouldn't it suck to see something you created used for something you might hate?

I know many pro photogs don't post for this reason, so am interested in the music side of things. Maybe it's no big deal, but the principle behind it irks me.

By Anonymous david, at 11:07 a.m.  

Multiple re-use Terms Of Service are necessary in order to allow for the software developers to facilitate the sharing of publicly available user generated content. The TOS acts as a catch-all.

Photography tends to result in more gray area than music. For example, Myspace will - without letting you know - put your music on the front section of their music page. But nobody is going to complain about that. If they were going to use your music to advertise their service, they wouldn't HAVE to tell you, but unless they wanted to suffer a public outcry, they would. And they would compensate you. Failing to do so would not be in their best interests. Same goes for Facebook.

By Blogger Greg, at 1:07 p.m.  

Agreed, the issue is more apparent in photography than music. Talking to people, a lot don't seem to get and/or care about the implications. That's cool - for most it would never affect them anyways.

The TOS is fine as a legal catch-all, but my point is it can easily move beyond that. I mean, it's well known that Facebook is heavily tied to corporate marketing and they already license content to the media, so it's within the realm of possibility. It comes down to how we view our "intellectual property" rights.

It makes for an interesting discussion, anyways. DN

By Anonymous david, at 2:55 p.m.  

That is awesome - go Japandroids!

By Anonymous Gord, at 3:52 p.m.  

Photographers need to be very careful where they put their work online. People view imagery as public domain more often than not. And I don't just mean corporations -- some guy looking for artwork for his first CD may very well rip one of your photographs without thinking twice. Or maybe Crystal Castles will do it for a t-shirt;). The worst part is if they argue that they "changed it sufficiently".

What are the examples you know of Facebook using people's photos? Is it for promotional material?

With music, there really is little doubt when someone is creeping around the limits of what constitutes "fair use". Whether or not they care is another story.

By Blogger Greg, at 5:09 p.m.  

And for the record -- not speaking for the band here, but if Facebook went and did something we didn't want with the Japandroids tracks, the shit-storm that would surround such a misstep on Facebook's part would do wonders for publicity :).

By Blogger Greg, at 5:11 p.m.  

Crap. Seems my eloquent response never got published yesterday.

Yr right, the publicity could work wonders for a band!

The thing that got me talking was when the media published facebook photos without user permission and credited the photos to facebook. National Post and three others all did this with images of a teenager who was killed in Toronto a few weeks back. It wasn't a case of fair use or otherwise. They licensed the pics from facebook. This incident sparked a debate amongst my friends and I guess I was still thinking about it when I read this post.

Anyways, 'cause I didn't mean to hijack the good news - to bring it all back to my first comment - can't wait for the new Japandroids full-length. My 'Lullaby' CD is getting pretty worn!

By Anonymous david, at 10:22 a.m.  

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